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hello and welcome to NASA's virtual

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social we are here in front of the

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beautiful the iconic Atlantic Atlantis

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space space shuttle and I'm here joined

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with Madison so great to be here with

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you Phillips oh I'm I'm Madison Tuttle

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and I am the social media lead here at

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Kennedy Space Center I just want to

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remind y'all while you're watching if

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you have any questions for a subject

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matter expert that's going to be joining

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us later feel free to drop them in the

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chat below so today we have a very

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special guest with us and he'll be

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talking about hangar AE which is a

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facility operated by the launch services

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program so the launch services program

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or LSP for short kind of serves as the

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earth bridge to space so anytime there's

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a robotic or scientific mission that

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needs to get into space LSP is there to

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make sure that that mission has the

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right rocket so Phillip I know that you

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work with the launch services program do

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what you do

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sure so thank you so much for the the

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great intro to LSP that was a great

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description of what we do so my job

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specifically is that I am a trajectory

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analyst and what that means is that I

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work with the commercial launch vehicle

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provider and the NASA spacecraft

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provider the people who build those

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robotic you know things like the Mars

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rovers are Earth orbiting satellites and

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things like that and we make sure that

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the rocket puts the spacecraft where

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it's supposed to go at the right time

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going the right direction and going the

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right speed so that's it's a lot of math

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but it's obviously the important things

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to make sure that it the things go the

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way that they're supposed to go so my

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job is basically all before launch we

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get you know we plan out the

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trajectories and we send the data out to

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the people who need it and we're gonna

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be doing that planning but today's

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conversation topic is going to be about

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what actually happens on the day of

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launch the people who are tracking the

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vehicle to make sure that it follows the

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trajectory that we planned out so we

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actually have a video for y'all to watch

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about hangar AE and then we'll be back

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our next stop is NASA's launch services

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program hangar 88 here at Cape Canaveral

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Air Force Station we're gonna head to

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the lobby to learn a little bit more

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about the capabilities hangar 80

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provides launch services program or LSP

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for short is responsible for launching

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NASA's uncrewed science and robotic

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missions but their expertise is

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invaluable to the Commercial Crew

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program in collaboration with our CCP

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colleagues we were working as one NASA

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to get humans back to space from KSC

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LSP shares their technical insight of

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the Falcon 9 and Atlas 5 launch vehicles

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analytical assessments and provides

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operations in-state for launch sites as

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well as at the launch vehicle provider

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design and production facilities inside

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hangar 80 on launch day LSP engineers

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alongside the CCP technical launch team

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to provide real-time Falcon 9 technical

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advice when requested here at hangar AE

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LSP a-- has hosted pre-launch

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simulations for the demo2 mission and

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will also provide their world-class

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telemetry and communication services to

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sighs a lot here at you know every women

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communication hey Yuri can you tell me a

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little bit more about what you do

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yes Madison welcome so welcome to hangar

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telemetry is getting data back from the

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so there's tracking all along the earth

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for demo too and we get all that data

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launch team needs to communicate so they

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communicate at Hawthorne the communicate

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here at the hangar and at JSC to make

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sure that we're all ready for launch the

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whole team so let me give you a tour of

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the hangar and kind of go through the

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systems and how we do our job so hangar

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all launches so every single launch that

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gets the data from here so here it is

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launch services programs mission is to

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unite customers which in this case is

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CCP and capabilities and cultures to

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explore space through unparalleled

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launch services so the hangar East

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capability is one of the things that

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we're bringing to help demo to to help

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we have a few control rooms here the

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first one is the mission directors

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Center so you've seen this on many

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last few years to make it much more

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sleek a much more open design here on

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the consoles so for a typical mission

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the engineering team will come in about

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six hours before launch and this is what

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they're seeing so on console they have

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three basic functions they have voice so

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that's communicating with 13

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that's what right here all these green

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boxes and so they pick all the nets that

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they want to hear so yellow is meaning

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someone talking on avionics net or GNC

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mentor countdown them then they have

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video obviously you want to see what's

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going on on the launch all the different

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valve making sure that they move

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correctly and then last so that I don't

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have up right now is the data so the

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data is what whatever system you're in

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charge of let's say propulsion they're

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seeing all the propulsion elements of

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that vehicle making sure that it's

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engines are gimble incorrectly and so

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that's what you're doing on console

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those are the three basic functions here

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in the hangar and at every console at

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Hawthorn or at JSC that they're watching

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for is the video the voice and the data

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and so that is my team and my job here

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at hangar at E is to make sure that they

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get their comm make sure they get their

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video and make sure they get the data

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that they can use that they can make

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sure that they are go for launch so this

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during demo two and then for LSP

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launches management and all the

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executives sit in the MVC so we'll go

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into the other rooms right now and we'll

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show you what they do so here is the the

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back of the hangar back of the hangar is

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the launch vehicle data centers so

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engineering team and the data gets

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fast so this door used to be the door of

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the mission directors Center we put

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every sticker that the hangar at a team

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has supported over the years again from

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since the 50s and so obviously you fill

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door so one of the first missions that I

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the Mars Science Laboratory Curiosity

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and then obviously we keep going

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launching LSP launches six missions in

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the last year or two so we're really

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hare is that we work every launch

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because we need the data to analyze that

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the launch that were working at the time

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launched a few weeks ago so we get that

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data back to the hangar and that data we

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extra assurance that that our launch is

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going to be successful so that's what

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this team is doing in here

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and this is lvdc one so this is lvdc 2

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so this is where the LSP the launch

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services program senses so we are gonna

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help CCP launch with all of our 20 years

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of experience in SpaceX aim and other

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launch vehicle providers and you can see

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all the patches that LSP has worked over

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the years these show that our

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team in here during demo 2 and they'll

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sure that the SpaceX Falcon 9 is ready

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to launch for demo - so this is Ellie DC

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providers in this room if you watched

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icon launch in October the launch

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vehicle team Norfolk Grumman actually

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sat in here to launch the Pegasus and so

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for demo to the CCP team will sit in

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that's no we're helping support demo to

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hearing the hangar is we're gonna be

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getting data we're going to have

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engineers sitting on console looking at

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the telemetry verifying that the rocket

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is ready to launch and giving a go for

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NASA so thank you for coming to hangar

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at ye joy being involved in this mission

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and hangar E is is go floor alright so

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we're back and we're very lucky to have

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our special guests to read with us read

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can you tell us a little bit about sort

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of your role what your day-to-day looks

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like and maybe how hangar AE is involved

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in the demo to launch that's coming up

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so I'm read the birdie so I am the chief

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of hangar AE the common telemetry team I

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started at NASA about ten years ago

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starting as a communications engineer

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then I moved up to be a lead and now I'm

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the branch chief of that group that

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group is about 40 engineers kind of in

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the background working these launches

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every launch and then for demo two we'll

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be working that making sure that all

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those systems are running making sure

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we're getting all the data so the launch

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and make sure that LSP is ready for

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launch so perfect and Reid you took us

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on a great to of tour of hangar AES so

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can you tell us what's his eight you

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stand for

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Station side so they named their

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buildings after letters so it starts

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with building a and goes up so a II was

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the next one in that sequence so kind of

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boring but at least not an acronym you

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hangar eight so yeah about 40 people and

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then obviously we have all people

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another 20 working SharePoint and other

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administrative tools and then actually

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we have a sister site out of Vandenberg

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building 836 that has another 20 people

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and that supports the LSP missions that

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launched out of California and and so if

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you happen to have a launch maybe close

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to each other on back-to-back days how

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do you staff that or support that yeah

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so that's the cool thing about the

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hangar we can support many different

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telemetry streams all simultaneously we

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can actually support up to five launches

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kind of on the same at the same time

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obviously it's they're not always

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launching they're always it's as soon as

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they power up we get the telemetry so

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before they they launch we're getting

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the telemetry so there's some times

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where we're supporting a Vandenberg

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mission kind of getting their systems

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figured out and also a demo two mission

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or any other missions kind of all at the

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same time so we're getting a lot of data

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sometimes multiple missions all at the

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same time which is cool yeah and why is

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it so important to be kind of monitoring

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and analyzing that data going into

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hangar 80 during a launch yeah so that's

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that's a good question so so the reason

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we exist at least in my in my view is we

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are an independent analysis of the

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vehicles status so what that means it's

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just in this set let's talk demo - so

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they have SpaceX has their own systems

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that created the rocket that gets the

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data so we can take that data

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independently from the way they did it

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decom it or take it apart in the

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measurements and then look at it

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independently of what they're looking at

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and that gives that extra assurance for

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astronauts far the unmanned payloads and

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then Ellis piece perspective that hey

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this this system is really ready to

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launch everything looks right and then

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we can say go for launch

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so read when you show us the things that

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we saw in that video you're in the lv

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dcs and it looks kind of like a mission

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control room that may be something that

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sort of piqued people's memories can you

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tell us how you know the telemetry

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center is a little different from the

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launch control center yeah so we don't

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actually launch the rocket from hangar

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AE a company can come in like a Northrop

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Grumman in the video they can launch the

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rocket of course they weren't launching

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it in a Pegasus perspective actually the

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pilot does but so but we're monitoring

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so when you say telemetry it's kind of

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like when you go to your doctor when

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you're getting a heart rate you get the

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telemetry of your heart rate so it's the

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same thing for a rocket the telemetry as

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you launch down you get all the

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different measure measurements and that

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could be a pressure a temperature a

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different gauge and then that will tell

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you hey the Rockets working properly and

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we decon that put that into engineering

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units and then the engineers put put

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together pages so that they can view

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whatever temperature they want to see or

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anything that they're looking at so how

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much effort does it take beforehand to

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make sure that you can do all of those

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things in the moment and be able to you

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know if an anomaly happens or anything

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like that to be able to be prepared

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because it's all happening real-time

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right right yeah so for demo two I mean

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really demo one was the beginning of us

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testing these systems for this launch

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and working with the our customers to

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make sure that we gather all the

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requirements we meet with them

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constantly to make sure we update

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anything that they need so even

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yesterday I'm getting emails constantly

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with changes and fixes just little

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things at this point but yeah it's a

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constant like two years out you're

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meeting with your customer and in my

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perspective being people on the hanger

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AE to make sure that we get all the

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requirements that we need so it's a long

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process

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and what are the requirements for a

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launch to be good to go what are the

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requirements okay so obviously everybody

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has a role right so from a hanger

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perspective we have people that are

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working on a specific piece of the

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rocket so the propulsion so they're

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making sure that all the fuel is

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correctly is put in and and then

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obviously there's the launch directors

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and they're kind of making sure their

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team funnels up all the requirements

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making sure that every system is ready

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so my system is making sure that they

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can all communicate because some of the

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time and especially now they're all in

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different parts of the country they're

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in Hawthorne there in JSC and they're in

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hangar AE

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and so that's kind of the way it works

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is you funnel up all the different

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positions make sure that they're ready

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on their piece and then obviously at the

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end we tell SpaceX hey NASA is ready to

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go so so from my perspective as I said

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I'm a trajectory analyst so I'm really

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just thinking about t0 and after so the

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launch time and after so once you're

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tracking the vehicle when it's already

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in the air is it how is it different

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when you're tracking telemetry prior to

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launch because you don't start you know

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you don't just start doing your

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telemetry once it lifts off you're doing

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telemetry hours beforehand right yeah so

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there's the umbilical so you have it

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hooked up to the rocket so we get

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telemetry from there there's also ground

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stations here around Center tel floor

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that gets us the RF telemetry and then

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so that's what you get the pre-launch

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and then post launch it depends on the

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rocket so some launch vehicles like

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SpaceX look stock demo to again they use

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all ground assets for Falcon 9 I think

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the dragon actually uses t dress and

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then t dress is NASA's tracking

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satellites in space and so ula and some

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of the other launch vehicle varieties

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actually use t dress and we're actually

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kind of a hub here at KSC to get the t

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dress data back and teachers again are

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the satellites that track in space for

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nasa and that's run out of Goddard so we

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get that data also

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and do you experience any time delays

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and communication or is it pretty

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instantaneous

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yeah just like anything you know now

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it's all Ethernet so sometimes if

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someone they're using a lot of Ethernet

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sometimes that can be some delayed

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that's something we're constantly

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tracking to make sure that our delay is

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is working correctly because it can get

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really kind of confusing if someone

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right next to you is talking in a net

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that you're also listening to if there's

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delay so that's something where as a

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common generic constantly making sure

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that the communications as quickly and

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as as possible so maybe just kind of

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just take a step back we've used a lot

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of different terms throughout this

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discussion yeah you just kind of define

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telemetry what that really means I don't

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if you have any you know ways to relate

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it to common knowledge yeah so I kind of

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talked a little bit about that but yeah

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it's lemon tree is for the rocket right

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is again is you're getting all the

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different pieces back so that a launch

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vehicle engineer can look at it so at 11

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in my perspective the telemetry is all

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put together in one stream and then sent

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through t dress or a tracking satellite

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and then we D comment so what that means

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is like there's one stream packet of

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information and then you have to know

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where that temperature is within that

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stream and so there's a lot of math and

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a lot of figuring out how that piece is

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put together and you work with a lot of

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different launch vehicle providers which

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gives us that extra expertise in

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understanding how that would work on a

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standards basis so it's it's kind of

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good have different experiences

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different launch vehicles because the

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way that they all kind of are related

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and that they're doing the same thing

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and is do you have a sense of how much

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data that is you think about all the

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different things that the vehicles

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sending down to the ground yeah so one

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cool thing we did was it used to be

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stripped charts and just before I

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started they were kind of still using

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strip charts and it was you know not

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many measurements maybe 800

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- a thousand measurements now it's

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hundreds of thousands of measurements

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that SpaceX is sending down that we have

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to decom and obviously the processing

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power has to be much better so we have

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really big servers in the hangar that

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that helps kind of chug through all that

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data 20a you say 800 to a thousand is

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not that many so that gives a

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perspective on how things have changed

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right one last question from social

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media what's something you wish the

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general public knew more about either

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what you do or just during launches in

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general let's see general public I mean

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my view is you know there's always

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debate on commercial versus government

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and this is a good example a great

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example actually of that that we can do

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both you can do both you can have

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government oversight and helping

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commercial companies get what they want

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to do while also doing commercial and

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and LSP is a perfect example of that

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kind of meshing of hey we can help you

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get where you want to go as a commercial

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company but we are a government

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organization so we'll stay out of your

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way we'll make sure that you can be

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successful and we'll help pieces like

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hangar AE in a good sense of getting

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what they need to do so Northrop Grumman

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for example they're headquartered up in

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Maryland or Virginia I think and they

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don't have to point in presence here at

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KSC so they had nowhere to sit their

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team for their launches and so we

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provided that to them and it saved them

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you know a millions of dollars of trying

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to set up a whole comm system and

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telemetry system and so that's ways that

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we help commercial entities get where

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they want to go so that would be what I

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would kind of say to everyone

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great cool yeah I think that's that's it

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for now

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Reid thank you so much for joining us I

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really learned a lot you know it's

530
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working with LSP there's just so many

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things that you just it's it's a big

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program because launching rockets is a

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really big endeavor so it's awesome to

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learn more about other parts of the

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program so thank you for joining us hope

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you had a good time yeah I did Madison

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thank you so much for being a part of

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this as well and for forgetting our

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questions in and then thank you for

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everybody who sent in questions we

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really appreciate your commentary so the

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next show is going to be a three o'clock

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Eastern we'll be talking about spaceport